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Post  SJ Dixon Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:25 am

There seems to be a limted number of actual gimmicks or characters on the roster at the minute. Having a wider variety and some definite characters could help more viewers enjoy the shows, and give us better ratings.

Most of the characters at the minute seem to be very similar. Nearly all the heels either want to be either cocky/arrogant or evil/dark. There's plenty more gimmicks that could be used for heels to give better variety. That leads to better rp'ing and differences between different feuds, otherwise they all end up very similar.

The main characters on the roster from season 1 have come across so far as:

Seamus McFamous: cocky/arrogant (probably the best one at this gimmick)
matzu/Darknezz: obnoxious
Quarion: big man
Hunter10: Dark loner, hates everyone
ChainS: evil/dark, fits in with Shadow League persona
Don Tomate: Fruitcake chef?!
Red Bull: Kick ass, don't take no shit!
Haqim: submission expert
Dark Lee: technical master (similar to Haqim, but slight differences)
Mason Gentry: Strong man, maybe going whiny?

There's a few more too, but those are some examples. Of the heel gimmicks that everyone seems to want to be, Seamus has the best arrogant character, and ChainS' promos at the start have been the best evil/dark ones. 2Face and big bull have good characters too, though I'm not sure exactly where they fit in yet.

Maybe someone like big bull, as he seems to have a good knack at this sort of thing, can write a list here of possible gimmicks to suggest for people to use and develop.

(Before anyone mentions it, I know I haven't really developed a character or gimmick yet either. Writing for faces is harder so I haven't really got into it yet! Razz )
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Post  Guest Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:50 am

i'm willing to help out no problem Wink

Big Bull Johnson = A Cocky face guy, just brag about his self and tries to score some girls
2face = Mistiq heel guy, is finding out that the face part isn't that bad.


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Post  Black Spirit Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:04 pm

That is a great idea. I'd include in Dixon's list:

LV King: He'll be carrying something like King Booker's gimmick
LastSonOfAxl: Young Superstar with a Manager who keeps pushing him in a bad way
Taka: Will become Thomas Steel's protege to continue the feud with Haqim
Zakhyo: How to forget our Texan Ranger?! (Might be another candidate for the Law & Order Stable)
Chris Mahoney / K4laSh: The guys who joined but have never posted one single thread (If you want to be a jobber, this is the way to go)
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Post  SJ Dixon Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:43 am

Got an few suggestions for alternative gimmicks:

Angry = wants to take on the world for all the bad that has happened to them, blames everyone else
Bodyguard = Employed by another wrestler to look out for them
Boyband/rockstar/rapper = musician of some sort, could be either face or heel
Bully = beats up smaller/weaker wrestlers
City Slicker = slimy, wall street business type
Clean cut = no drugs/drink
Clown = like a... clown
Law enforcement = either good cop (or something similar) or corrupt
Coward = cheats to win matches, backs out of fights
Crazy/psycho = complete of the all lunatic
Egomaniac = cocky, arrogant and everything else to the maximum
Extremist = Likes violent brawls, favours a chair shot to a suplex, doesn't mind getting hit by them either
Franchise = centre of the company, thinks everything should be built around them
Freak = wierdo, bizarre, etc.
Veteran/mentor = offers wisdom and advice from experiences
High Society = goes around in the upper circles, bit of a snob, looks down on "commoners"
Hillbilly = yeeeee haaaaaaa
Hired Gun = offers services of protection or to take someone out, for a price
Ice man = cold, calculating, ruthless, efficient fighter
Lackey/Sidekick = Follows another wrestler around and does their dirty deeds for them
Legitimate athlete = wrestling background, has experience in wrestling etc. (as in Kurt Angle)
Loner = shuns others, dark brooding figure
Luchadore = masked wrestler, good technically and high flying. Usually Japanese or Mexican
Martial Arts = expert in various martial arts
Prima Donna = gets by on looks, thinks better than everyone else
High flyer/show stopper/highlight reel = uses extravagant, crowd pleasing big moves. Goes all out to impress the fans
Street fighter = brawler, grew up on the streets, knows how to take care of themselves
Trouble maker = likes to wind others up, encourages them to start things with other wrestlers
Underdog = unlikely to win, at a disadvantage, but keeps trying
Gothic/vampire/demonic = into occult type stuff. Could come under the "evil" label

The "evil" thing is vague anyway. What makes the wrestler so evil, in what way are they evil?? There's more to the gimmick than just giving yourself that title. Evil cop, evil lawyer, evil foreigner, evil trash collector, evil dentist... etc, but with more definition than just "evil". It could be rather than just an evil "something" it's more under the demonic area mentioned above. More variation, so differences between all wrestlers who want to refer to themselves as "evil".
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Post  Guest Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:37 am

Awesome Entry mate !

Found this on Wikipedia.org©

Heels:
Crazy heel: A raging madman, dangerous and unpredictable - may attack others for no apparent reason, or blame others for being "held back" from championship opportunities and other privileges. Sometimes psychotic behavior is displayed. Examples of this would include Brian Pillman, Victoria (during her first heel run), Snitsky, Brock Lesnar (during his final heel run), and Mick Foley (when he debuted his Mankind persona). Certain foreign heels, such as Umaga, and The Great Khali, display these unpredictable tendencies due to poor (kayfabe) communication skill.

Comic heel: A heel character with comical aspects to his or her gimmick. Though the heel's mannerisms and overall character are silly, the comic heel can still be a serious heel contender, such as former World Champion King Booker or Edge and Christian, who would be featured playing kazoos and exercising in chicken suits. Examples include Simon Dean, Doink the Clown, Jillian Hall (during her singing gimmick), Santino Marella, Victoria and Chris Jericho (during his run in WCW).

Cowardly heel: A wrestler who, in addition to breaking the rules and displaying characteristics of other heel types, often runs from his face opponents when threatened or otherwise placed at a disadvantage. A cowardly heel who is champion may often intentionally get himself disqualified (through outside interference or deliberately breaking a rule in front of the referee) or counted out when he is clearly losing the match against a face, allowing him to retain his championship despite losing the match since championships usually do not change hands should the reigning champion lose by disqualification or countout. Cowardly heels will usually duck out of the ring whenever their most dominant babyface opponents make their theme entrance. One example of a cowardly heel is The Honky Tonk Man during his run as WWF Intercontinental Champion in 1987-1988. A recent example is John "Bradshaw" Layfield during his feud with Eddie Guerrero (rip) in 2004.

Traitor heel:A face who has turned a bad leaf. In addition, this character may usually go to such limits as to making a disrespectful remark in the ring which will not please the crowd, to making a brutal surprise attack on one of the crowd's favorite face wrestlers. Reasons of the attack may be over that face holding the title, or more fame and glory that the face receives. Bitter feuds are usually started after this act of betrayal which may go on between these two character for weeks, possibly even months. Chavo Guerrero in 2003 was a traitor heel, after he watched Shaniqua and the Basham Brothers attack his uncle Eddie Guerrero, and then attacked Eddie himself. An example for a women's feud is the feud between Trish Stratus and Mickie James, with James constantly attacking Stratus's protege Ashley Massaro and turning on Stratus weeks before Wrestlemania 22, claiming Trish never appreciated Mickie's 'love' for her.

Delinquent heel: A troublesome and disrespectful character who verbally and visually displays uncivilized conduct such as profanity, vandalism, violence and associated "criminal" behavior. Sometimes the wrestler will harass or bully opponents and rebel against authority. An example of this would be D-Generation X during their first heel run in 1997-1998. Other examples include Stone Cold Steve Austin, Hollywood Hogan and the New World Order, Edge and Lita during their Rated-R gimmick, The Undertaker early in his "Big Evil" gimmick, and Tazz during his feud with Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler in mid-2000.

Egotistical heel: An obnoxious and self-important character who is arrogant or cocky; some wrestlers play roles on their own fame, achievements, or good looks and usually will continue to gloat non-stop despite the boos of the crowd. Examples include Hollywood Hogan, Chris Jericho, Edge, Christian Cage, JBL, Vince McMahon, Trish Stratus, Randy Orton, Kurt Angle, Mr. Kennedy, Joey Mercury, Johnny Nitro, "The Model" Rick Martel, Montel Vontavious Porter, Rick Rude, and Shawn Michaels.

Female heel: Female heels have traditionally tended to display unpleasant, prima donna-like personalities towards fans and opposing divas and wrestlers, and often excessive obsession over their image and looks. They have often interfered in matches and attacked opponents from behind without provocation. Female heels in recent history have shown jealousy towards her opponents, especially one that is receiving high-profile recognition. In response, the heel will try to prove her superiority over her opponent. Traditionally, female heels in wrestling have tended to lean toward the stereotype of a woman with loose morals, both in style of dress and in attitude (this was particularly true of the heel divas in ECW, such as Francine and Dawn Marie), and are often mocked or insulted by male faces for their supposed sexual immorality. Other female heels may look down on female faces, calling them "sluts" for playing to the crowd.

Foreign heel: In United States wrestling, these are heels who stir up the crowd by expressing strong anti-American sentiments. They may also refuse or be (kayfabe) unable to speak English, preferring instead to render their tirades through an interpreter. Often these characters would be topical, playing off global events and crises current at the time. Examples include the La Resistance tag team, Yokozuna, The Iron Sheik. In Mexican wrestling, Americans are often portrayed as heels. Alternatively, there is a variation on the foreign heel gimmick - a wrestler who is actually an American, but has turned his back on his country in favor of an (ostensibly superior) one (called a traitor heel) Muhammad Hassan is a unique example of the "traitor heel," having turned his back on America, not in favor of another country, but as an act of protest demanding respect as an American citizen. Normally, foreign heels are regional heroes in their native countries.

Monster heel: An unstoppable juggernaut who squashes his opponents. Sometimes, monster heels violently "injure" other wrestlers (sometimes through rule breaking tactics), terrorize valets (injuring them on occasion), and commit other heinous acts in order to set up a feud with a promotion's lead face. Notable examples include The Undertaker, Abyss, Kane, The Great Khali, Big Daddy V, Mark Henry, Umaga, Sid Eudy, Yokozuna, André the Giant, The Big Show, and Chris Masters. Female monster heels, as they tend to be more physically imposing compared to the average woman, are often portrayed as Amazon-like warriors, capable of even holding their own against male wrestlers. Notable examples include Jazz, Shaniqua, Chyna, Awesome Kong and Beth Phoenix. Some monster heels tend to show some cockiness due to their size.

Popular heel: Certain heel performers are known to receive enthusiastic cheers from the fans instead of heel heat, in spite of their heelish antics. These heels display confidence, toughness, coolness, and bravado that set them apart from more cowardly heels, almost to the point that they become tweeners and, eventually, babyfaces. Examples include Stone Cold Steve Austin, "Macho Man" Randy Savage, Randy Orton The Rock, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Kane, The Undertaker, Mr. Kennedy, Ric Flair, Eddie Guerrero, and Samoa Joe. A lot of legendary heels like Ric Flair, Roddy Piper and Hollywood Hogan get cheered.

Heel stables: A large gang of heels that usually create an advantage through numbers. The concept of the heel stable was largely innovated by the Four Horsemen. Such groups commonly self destruct due to an inability to work together or selfishness of the group's leader. Other prominent heel stable examples include the New World Order, the Corporation, The Right To Censor faction, various incarnations of Team Canada, the Dangerous Alliance, Evolution, The Age of the Fall, and most recently, La Familia and the Main Event Mafia.

Celebrity heels: Are celebrities who act like a heel and would start a major feud with the top face (or in some cases, other heels). Examples include former professional boxer Mike Tyson when he was with the first heel run of DX and was feuding with Stone Cold Steve Austin. Rapper, Kevin Federline is another example when he was feuding with then WWE Champion, John Cena. This also makes the storyline more interesting to the fans. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. is the most recent celebrity heel, getting negative reactions from the crowd by bragging about his wealth, despite the fact he was feuding against another heel, The Big Show.

Figure of authority: A heel in a position of power. He/she often abuse their powers, books face wrestlers against seemingly impossible odds, such as handicap matches or matches against monster heels. Figures of Authority often feud with the top face, rarely interacting with other wrestlers. Examples include The McMahon's, Eric Bischoff, Paul Heyman, William Regal, Vickie Guerrero (during her current run as SmackDown! General Manager), Armando Alejandro Estrada and Kurt Angle.

Moralistic heels: A heel who in his or her own mind is a babyface, and takes every opportunity to lecture the fans and other wrestlers about their perceived lack of values. They make it their mission to "clean up" the world of wrestling and eliminate elements the fans love, but they see as distasteful. Despite their high moral standards, they will often express their beliefs through terroristic threatening and radical, violent behavior. They often feud with outlaw, degenerate faces. Moralistic heels include Bob Backlund, Bret Hart, Owen Hart (as the Blue Blazer), Irwin R. Schyster, the Right to Censor stable, CM Punk (in Ring of Honor), Matt Striker, Molly Holly, Kurt Angle and, most recently, Chris Jericho during his current "Save Me" gimmick.

Young heel: A younger wrestler who believes that he is the "future of wrestling" and spends much of his time antagonizing older, more established wrestlers. They believe that these older wrestlers should simply retire and "make room" for the younger talent. Notable examples include Randy Orton's "Legend Killer" gimmick and the Natural Born Thrillers stable. The most recent example is the tag team of Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase, Jr.

Control Freak heel: A variation of a crazy/monster heel, the wrestler uses brainwashing and domination to control (sometimes recruit) either his/her stable members, valet, or adversaries. Sometimes the control freak will be an figure of authority at some point. Examples include The Undertaker, X-Pac, Mike Knox, and Shane McMahon. Raven is a very notorious Control Freak Heel, as he's brainwashed wrestlers in WCW (The Flock) and TNA (Serotonin). This type of heel, however, is rarely used.

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Post  Guest Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:18 am

Heel Tactics:
Using the ropes or grabbing the opponent's tights during pinfalls.

Masquerading as face wrestlers.

Insulting fan-favorites or face wrestlers by mocking signature poses of the face wrestlers (showing humiliation to face wrestlers).

Sticking thumbs, throwing powder/salt, or spitting foreign substances into an opponent's eyes.

Removing the padding on turnbuckles to expose the steel underneath it, and then smashing an opponent's head, face, etc.

Use of concealed weapons (brass knuckles, etc). Some heels are less subtle when using a weapon, grabbing a chair from ringside in full view of the referee with no regard for the consequences.

Dragging an opponent's face across the top rope.

Low blows.

Heels will tend to argue and shout with the referee as a distraction for the heel's tag team partner to do more damage to a weak and tired face opponent, such as choke them against the ropes, only if the face opponent is near their side of the ring. If the face's partner sees what is happening and tries to help, the referee usually will hold them back as the heels does more damage to the face opponent.

Hard legal tactics, such as shoot kicks to the face, if done repeatedly and with the intention to make the face wrestler look weak.

Use of "cheap" tactics or "bending the rules", for example knee hits intending to break the knee, hyperextending the arm and striking the elbow to break the arm, foot stomps, hair pulls, headbutts to the opponents nose with intent to break the nose, and/or punches or palm strikes to attempt to break the opponents nose.

Utilizing an "arrogant pin," such as posing or mocking the crowd while making a clearly ineffective pinfall attempt.

Holding a forearm down on an opponent's face during a pinfall attempt.

Lifting an opponent off the mat during a seemingly effective pinfall attempt (generally by pulling the opponent's hair) in order to continue the match (and to continue "beating up" on the opponent).

Bringing a valet, manager, or another wrestler to the ring to help the heel by cheating.

Using the outside of the ring to rest, or ducking into the ropes to slow the match down.

When defending titles, intentionally getting himself/herself disqualified.

Insulting the fans or mocking the city in which he or she is performing during promos. Heels might also mock local sports teams who have suffered disappointing results.

Assaulting the opponent after a match or interfering in a rival's match in to cost them the win.

Purposely getting themselves counted out in order to avoid a clear pinfall loss. This is often done in title matches; the heel champion will keep his title despite the countout loss (This act has been done by heel wrestlers recently such as Montel Vontavious Porter)

Heels are often also noted by commentators to be "targeting a specific body area" - often to render their opponent's finisher move ineffective or weaken them for a pinfall.

Heels are portrayed as being weaker fighters than faces, regardless of size or technical ability; If a heel wrestler and face wrestler turn face and heel respectively, the newly turned face will then be portrayed as the better fighter.

Heels usually will perform their most of their delinquent, despicable, low-down acts towards their babyfaces opponents, (such as injuries, severe beatdowns, harm towards a babyface's family member, humiliation on behalf of the babyface, provoking a loss of a title shot for the babyface, blackmail, etc.) angering them and trying their patience before upcoming events (such as Wrestlemania, Summerslam, No Way Out, etc.) in which case the heels are usually defeated in their matches.

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Post  Black Spirit Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:14 pm

Wow guys. This list is wonderful. I'm gonna let you finish it and then I'm gonna take it and post it in the News Section so every new guy could read it and choose the one he prefers for it's character.
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Post  Guest Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:24 pm

Popular heel,Figure of authority,Moralistic heels i really don't know what heel use,analyzing my actions, which come closer to them?

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Post  Guest Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:38 pm

Right on it, Expect an analyse in about 5/10 minutes

Well I came to a Conclusion:

Figure of authority Fits you more of all the heels , Cause you want to wrestle the top and wrestle a handicap match.

Otherwise try to be a face could fit you too you know

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Post  SJ Dixon Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:09 pm

Nice updates big bull, very indepth. Can you find something similar for the face side of things?

There are other factors that should be looked at when choosing the gimmick other than the gimmick itself:

Good guy/Bad guy:
Just going to add that the character/gimmick should obviously fit with whether you are supposed to be a face (good) or heel (bad). Some of the ones I listed earlier are more suited to faces, others for heels, and some can be done for both. They just depend on how the individual portrays them, what actions they choose, etc.

There's no point deciding to be an egomaniac or cowardly if you're a face. Or chooosing underdog if you're a heel. Rock star could be done either way, as an example. Either thinking you're a big star (which goes with egomaniac) or playing to the teenage fanbase (so a more face disposition).

Class type:
Similarly, different classes work better with certain gimmicks. Most can be done with any, but high flyer is more suited to a speed class wrestler. They have specific class moves that go with the gimmick. Technical class wrestlers would suit martial artist. Resistance goes well with bodyguard (although strength also could work).

Moveset:
There are certain moves that are specific to certain classes (moves that can only be bought by a specific class type). This goes with the bit above about influencing the gimmick and whether you're a face or a heel. There are also certain moves that work well for heels, such as ones big bull mentioned.

Age:
This is only relevant for a small number of gimmicks. Only older aged wrestlers would suit mentor/veteran. Similarly, cocky youngster/newcomer is a better gimmick for younger wrestlers.


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Post  Black Spirit Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:18 pm

Quarion, I'm booking you as a Face, why would you want to change to heel?
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Post  Guest Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:17 am

I having some problem for translate the word "heel" what the hell that mean?I don't want change to heel if i passed that for you sorry Razz.
Heel=Bad Guy
Face=Good Guy
I'm right or not?If not,anyone can explain me?I need some english lessons,lol Razz

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Post  Guest Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:20 am

Heel = Bad guy, Fan boo him
Tweener = Fan just dont know, Cheer or boo they do both
Face = Good guy, The Cheer the man

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Post  Guest Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:09 am

Ok,bbj thx that helped a lot,i want continue as face Very Happy.Which is the majority in the fed heel or face?

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Post  Guest Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:53 pm

I Think the Majority is a Heel in this fed,
Myself I am a face guy, but will soon change to a Heel and well I'm good at it!
but The most folks backstage are Heel guys

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Post  Guest Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:59 pm

Face Types:

The Hero
He is courageous, honest, complies with rules and the others (besides its rivals), always ready to defend the weak ones, he has success near the women, he can be funny and he can leave himself all the situations and even if he behaves sometimes in an arrogant way. It is in general it face which goes best near the public, and with which one saves a championship, but it is also the character hardest to obtain because to incarnate a face of this type, it is necessary to be rather young, fine young man, to have an irreproachable technique and to have much charisma.
The Rock'n'roll, John Cena or Batista is of the examples of this type of face.

The Patriot
Another type of face sees an all-in wrestler who holds up the American flag proudly to collect the acclamations of crowd even if it does not have more talent than of personality. But this gimmick always makes receipt in a country with the patriotism developed like the United States. The gimmick has its limits, but obsolete step.
Hulk Hogan, " Hacksaw" Jim Duggan and Sgt. Slaughter are the most famous examples of patriotic faces.

The Rebel
They are characters who behave badly for the greatest pleasure of crowd. The rebellious face can for example humiliate a heel. It can also cheat against a heel. In general, this kind of face is put in competition with a figure of the authority, thus " Stone Cold" Steve Austin and DX a long time faced their owner Vince McMahon who was hated of crowd.

Indestructible
These faces are unbeatable, they are of an incredible force, able to demolish no matter whom, they terrorize the other all-in wrestlers for the greatest pleasure of the spectators. Among them one finds Goldberg, The Undertaker, Kane…
This type of gimmick can also be used as a heel.

The Air one
This category of face are all-in wrestlers not very heavy and of enough small size but which are compensated by their speed, their air figures and their spectacular catches. Those are often put in competition against all-in wrestlers heels having a colossal physique, crowd then takes pleasure to encourage David against Goliath.
One can quote in this category Rey Mysterio, Paul London, Brian Kendrick or Jeff Hardy

The original
It makes laugh the public thanks to its jokes and irritates the all-in wrestlers heel. All be delirious them are possible with this type of gimmick, one for example already saw with the WWE: a clown, a couple the homosexual ones, a man combatant out of dress, one delayed mental… In this category is also often classified the foreign all-in wrestlers who are not heel.

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Post  SJ Dixon Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:28 pm

I think the way you're going with your character at the minute, Quarion, you're kind of an enforcer type. Standing up for weaker wrestlers, against all the cheating, big and powerful.

If anybody else is struggling with the direction for their character maybe they could post here for suggestions. Also, others could suggest what gimmick someone should try based on their rp'ing so far. What the strengths of their character are and how they should portray themselves. Sometimes its easier for someone else to see what you're good at.
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Post  Guest Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:01 pm

I like the way I am taking my character, just need to improve his personality,the feed need some Good Guys Razz.I think about how face type follow,Hero type sounds good but i don't like the mr.perfect type,probally i will make my own way.

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Post  SJ Dixon Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:43 pm

I think that's the best way to do it. Choose a character type and then develop it to your own style. It doesn't have to strictly follow one type, it can be a mixture of two similar ones. If you develop the character to your own style then you'll be happier writing the rp, so the character/gimmick will come across better.

You're character is coming on well, and it's not really the same as anyone else's (which is good).
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